Stoicism is the Theory that: ...
This is a message that Grant C. Sterling sent to the International Stoic Forum in response to Anna and Nigel.
"As I said before, this might have been a more
productive conversation if you and Nigel had simply
presented your position as "modern science proves Stoicism
to be false, but here's a view that shares some of the
ideas of the Stoics in a modern setting". But you persist
in asserting that your views are "Stoicism".
"Stoicism" is the theory that:
a) Emotions are caused by value beliefs (beliefs about
what things are good or evil).
b) I am my soul/prohairesis/inner self.
c) Everything else, including my body, is an external.
d) No externals are ever good or evil.
e) All beliefs that externals have value are, hence,
false.
f) All feelings that result from false value beliefs
are, therefore, pathological and should be eliminated.
This includes all fear, grief, and anger, as well as
mental "pleasure", passionate love, etc. We eliminate
them by changing the false value belief that generated
the emotion.
g) Any feelings that arise from true value beliefs are
not pathological. The primary example of this is "Joy".
h) Some feelings do not arise from a cognitive source,
and hence are by definition indifferent externals.
This includes 'startlement', physical pleasures and
pains, and a few other things.
i) The goal of life is eudaimonia.
j) Eudaimonia includes both living a virtuous life and
living a life of positive feelings.
k) Living a virtuous life is necessary for eudaimonia
[because it is part of the very definition of eudaimonia],
and is also sufficient for eudaimonia [because the virtuous
person will experience Joy, a positive feeling, and no
negative feelings whatsoever].
That's the theory people mean when they call
someone a "Stoic". It's not a complete list of everything
the ancient Stoics believed (and the ancie
nt Stoics
were not unanimous in what they believed--for example,
I don't think there's convincing reason to believe that
they were all pantheists, Epictetus shows no sign of
being a determinist, etc.). Those are the ideas that
people even in ancient times regarded as really distinctive
of Stoicism. [The skeptics excepted--they thought that
the concept of cataleptic impressions was the truly
distinctive doctrine, but that may be because they
were almost exclusively interested in epistemology.]
As I said before, if you were only trying to
argue that modern science tells us that there are
a few more feelings in category 'h' than the ancient
Stoics recognized, that would clearly still be Stoicism
and, I think, would be well-justified. If you want
to argue that PTSD is a feeling not caused by a value
judgment, I'll cede the field to you, because I know
little about it. The same is true of clinical depression,
or phobias. But none of those are significant changes
because all of those are _bad things_ that we should
try to get rid of, and none of those require any changes
in any of the other core doctrines.
But that isn't what you're saying. Either you
or Nigel have at times denied 'a' by holding that normal
emotions like anger and grief do not arise from value
beliefs; 'b', by denying that my mind/soul/etc. is
fundamentally separate from my body; 'c', by asserting
that my family is in some sense part of me; 'd-f',
by claiming that feelings of grief and anger and
other painful feelings are sometimes appropriate and
should not be removed; 'g', by denying that 'Joy'
should be regarded as always appropriate; 'i-j', by
denying that feelings of any kind are the goal of life,
and 'k', by asserting that even the virtuous person will
feel negative feelings.
Your view is not Stoicism. It is not even
close to Stoicism. And if I were to introduce a
similar definition of Aristotelianism (with doctrines
like 'moderation in everything'), your views would
fit perfectly.
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> Yours sincerely,
>
> Anna
Adieu,
Grant